A Matter of Trust

Posted: August 10, 2011 in Job

Job 35-37, “It’s a Matter of Trust”

Have you ever had a problem trusting God?  You know what His word says about a certain situation, but you haven’t yet seen the result – so you’re not exactly sure if you can trust Him.

Such seems to be the case with Job.  He had a legitimate complaint in his sufferings & legitimate questions to bring before God.  Obviously God had not allowed sufferings to come to Job because of any sin or as punishment – God had seen Job as a righteous man & an example to others of someone who walked in the proper fear & reverence of God.  It was Satan who tested Job to the utmost & sent the nastiest trials imaginable his way; God’s involvement was to sovereignly allow it to take place & to lovingly protect Job’s very life in the midst of it.  Yet Job didn’t know any of this.  All Job knew is that he was suffering, and the only Person he could take his complaint to was the Lord God Almighty.  Job’s friends had only offered up false theology & platitudes & attempted to blame Job for his own problems; Job had had enough of it & in a moment of moral superiority, claimed that he knew better than God in all of this.

As a result, the 4th friend who had been previously silent was silent no longer.  Elihu contradicted Job & the friends by proclaiming God’s faithfulness & God’s justice.  Whereas the friends seemed to claim that God was always just & Job was always sinful – and Job claimed that he had been truly just & that God seemed to be sometimes unfair – Elihu seems to want to take a middle road, proclaiming that God is indeed always just, even if it seems like bad things happen at the time.  Elihu is not perfect in his proclamations & will even seem to fall into the same trap of the false theology of the 1st 3 friends, but for the most part, Elihu is concerned with being a faithful representative of God.  In his mind, it’s not so much that Job had sinned in the past, but that he may have been sinning in the present by lifting himself up to be on equal footing with God.

In Ch 35-37, Elihu continues to uphold God’s character, declaring that man simply has no ability to pass judgment upon God, and that God is always good & absolutely wondrous in His ways.  To attempt to judge God is an attempt in futility…ultimately, it’s a declaration that we’re unwilling to believe God at His word & trust Him to do what is right.  Are we willing to believe the best about God?  Is Job?

Job 35 (NKJV)
1 Moreover Elihu answered and said: 2 “Do you think this is right? Do you say, ‘My righteousness is more than God’s’? 3 For you say, ‘What advantage will it be to You? What profit shall I have, more than if I had sinned?’

  1. Had Job actually judged himself to be more righteous than God?  Basically, yes.  He may not have used those actual words, but he certainly implied it in his speeches.  Other translations put this, “It is my right before God,” but the implication is the same: Job believed he had a legitimate legal argument that God has been unjust with him, and thus Job would have been “more” righteous than God.  In Ch 19:6, he specifically states that “God has wronged me, and has surrounded me with His net.”  Logically, if God ever “wronged” anyone, then God Himself would be wrong & the other person would be in the right.  Granted, this was an argument Job wavered back & forth on.  He understood that God was His Redeemer, and would eventually bring deliverance (Job 19:25), yet in the meantime, he felt as if he knew better than God in all of these trials.
    1. Question: can God ever do wrong?  No. Deuteronomy 32:3–4, "(3) For I proclaim the name of the LORD: Ascribe greatness to our God. (4) He is the Rock, His work is perfect; For all His ways are justice, A God of truth and without injustice; Righteous and upright is He." []  God is at His very core good & holy & righteous.  By definition, everything God DOES is righteous.  There may be things we do not fully understand, but God can never do wrong; it’s completely the opposite of who He is.  To accuse God of wrongdoing is to be guilty of arrogance & false assumption…and this is where Job got it wrong.
  2. The other charge Elihu laid out against Job was that he claimed Job wondered if it was of any profit to serve God at all.  If God does not bless those who serve Him (indeed, if He unjustly sends affliction to those who serve Him), what is the point in serving God at all?  Elihu seems to have made this charge against the theology of the 3 friends in Ch 34:9, but now directly applies it to Job.  HAD Job said this?  Not in so many words – in fact, Job actually claimed this sort of thinking was descriptive of how the wicked thought about God. (Job 21:15)  Yet again, Job seemed to imply it an awful lot in that he believed God had dealt with him unjustly, and that he was deserving of something completely different.  This idea was at the core of the test from which Satan was attempting to afflict Job.  Satan thought the only reason Job served God was due to blessing, and if it were all taken away Job would curse God (Job 1:10-11).  Of course, even in Job’s doubts, he never cursed God nor did he abandon his faith – and God was proved to be glorified in the end.
    1. Regarding the charge: DOES it profit us to serve God even if we never receive physical blessing from Him?  Absolutely, yes.  There are Christians around the world that receive a death sentence the moment they publicly declare their faith in Christ – is it profit to them?  Yes.  They could have all the temporary riches & comfort the world can provide & yet they still willingly give it up to follow Christ.  Why?  They understand the right perspective on eternity.  What does it profit a man to gain the whole world & still lose his soul?
    2. How important it is to remember that we serve an infinite eternal God & that we possess an eternal soul!  80 years is a blip compared with the eons & ages to come.  Our response to the grace of God in this tiny little life today truly has eternal consequences. …

4 “I will answer you, And your companions with you. 5 Look to the heavens and see; And behold the clouds— They are higher than you. 6 If you sin, what do you accomplish against Him? Or, if your transgressions are multiplied, what do you do to Him? 7 If you are righteous, what do you give Him? Or what does He receive from your hand? 8 Your wickedness affects a man such as you, And your righteousness a son of man.

  1. Elihu makes the point that God’s ways are higher than our own.  Just as the clouds are higher than us, so God is infinitely higher than they.  If we shake our fists in rebellion against our Creator, it does not physically harm God – we can do no damage to Him.  Nor can we offer anything to Him that He does not already possess.  As God says through the psalms, if He were hungry, He would not tell us – the whole world is His, with all its fullness. (Ps 50:12)
    1. It’s interesting to see the current crop of new atheists in our culture today get so vehement & angry about a God they claim doesn’t exist.  They cast their verbal arrows & stones in a vain attempt to do Him harm, but they cannot.  They can belittle Christians, but they can never harm God.  For all their rebellion, they will still answer to Him on the day of judgment.
  2. Eliphaz had actually made a similar argument regarding the stars.  God is higher than the highest stars (Job 22:12).  The difference was that Eliphaz argued that Job claimed God couldn’t see him through the clouds (which Job had NOT said); Elihu argues that God is simply too high up to be affected by Job’s complaints.
    1. This is one area where Elihu seems to go a bit far.  God’s ways are indeed higher than ours & we cannot take anything away from God.  Yet at the same time, God DOES care about us.  Elihu almost implies that nothing we do matters to God, and Scripture shows that not to be the case.  The very concept of prayer shows that God DOES care about what we say & do & will act in accordance with His will in concert with our prayers.  Though Elihu is (rightly) holding firm to the transcendence of God, he seems to forget (or at least diminish) the love of God.
    2. If we’re going to represent God rightly, we need to be willing to stand firm on ALL the attributes of God as the Bible presents them.  Even if some aspects seem to be contradictory to us, we need to remember they are perfectly reconciled in God.  Thus God is both sovereign over our salvation, and He allows us the free will to respond to the gospel of grace.  God is absolutely loving & desires us to come to Christ, and God is absolutely holy & will punish those who remain in rebellion against Him.  All of these aspects are perfectly reconciled in God.

9 “Because of the multitude of oppressions they cry out; They cry out for help because of the arm of the mighty. 10 But no one says, ‘Where is God my Maker, Who gives songs in the night, 11 Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth, And makes us wiser than the birds of heaven?’ 12 There they cry out, but He does not answer, Because of the pride of evil men.

  1. Elihu points out there are many who will cry out to God in times of trouble, but few who continue to seek God in times of praise.  Even the animals and birds praise God with their lives, but men & women have a tough time doing so.  [10 lepers healed by Jesus] Luke 17:17–18, "(17) So Jesus answered and said, “Were there not ten cleansed? But where are the nine? (18) Were there not any found who returned to give glory to God except this foreigner?” " []  Elihu’s point is that Job’s complaining is making him seem like the other 9 lepers – Job is willing to cry out regarding his oppressions, but he hasn’t maintained an attitude in giving God praise.
  2. To be fair to Job, he actually DID have an attitude of praise when all of this began.  “Naked I came from my mother’s womb, And naked shall I return there. The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away; Blessed be the name of the LORD.” (Job 1:21)  The problem is that with all of his self-defense, his praise of the Lord seems to have gotten lost.
    1. This can be our problem as well.  The more we look inwardly at our own problems, the less we find ourselves praising the Lord outwardly.  We can easily find ourselves in a place of navel-gazing & moaning about our situation, rather than seeking the Lord.  That’s not to say that we need to ignore our problems, put on a happy face & pretend that we’re praising God – far be it!  Instead, we acknowledge our problems, but seek the face of God in the midst of them, not looking to our own self-pity, but trusting God to provide for us & sustain us.  Philippians 4:6–7, "(6) Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; (7) and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." []  Not a bit of that ignores a person’s problems!  This is facing our problems head-on & dealing with them as we submit our requests to God, and then trusting Him for the result.

13 Surely God will not listen to empty talk, Nor will the Almighty regard it. 14 Although you say you do not see Him, Yet justice is before Him, and you must wait for Him. 15 And now, because He has not punished in His anger, Nor taken much notice of folly, 16 Therefore Job opens his mouth in vain; He multiplies words without knowledge.”

  1. God will later chastise Job for darkening counsel with words without knowledge – the idea is that when Job was arrogantly claiming injustice with God, he did not understand what he was talking about.  Elihu states that God will not regard that kind of talk, but interestingly enough, that’s exactly what God does.  God does not answer the specific charges of Job, but His relationship with Job is not broken.  Even in His coming chastisement of Job, God demonstrates His grand love for Job just by talking with him at all.
  2. The bottom line here is that neither Job, nor any of us, can pass judgment upon God.  In that, Elihu was exactly correct.  Men & women can spend years casting aspersions upon God & accusing Him of all sorts of injustice (and they do – just go look at a bookstore!), but at the end of the day it doesn’t change a single thing.  God will always prove to be just, and God will demonstrate that very thing on the day of judgment.

Job 36 (NKJV)
1 Elihu also proceeded and said: 2 “Bear with me a little, and I will show you That there are yet words to speak on God’s behalf. 3 I will fetch my knowledge from afar; I will ascribe righteousness to my Maker. 4 For truly my words are not false; One who is perfect in knowledge is with you.

  1. Job obviously isn’t the only one with a problem of arrogance!  Elihu seems pretty egotistical regarding the importance of his words, to the point of claiming divine inspiration.  Whether or not Elihu was inspired by the Holy Spirit in doctrine is something that scholars debate.  It seems that when he finally starts speaking of the majesty of God, he perhaps is inspired – but in his contradiction of Job, he seems speak from a bit of his flesh as he gets carried away in his arguments. (That said, the text of the book of Job IS inspired; the Holy Spirit had the correct words recorded for our Bibles, even if what the people actually said had poor theology.)
  2. Even if Elihu is right on a lot of his points, he still has a problem here.  When dealing with the truth of God & passing it on to others, the focus ought to always be on the Lord; not us.  Elihu spends a lot of time putting the focus upon himself (that was the entire point of Ch 32 as he prepared to speak!).  Elihu does speak about the majesty of God, and he’s at his best when he does so – that’s where his arguments ought to have stayed. 
    1. Likewise for us – when the message starts to be about US, and the arguments WE’RE making, etc., then we’ve already lost the debate.  It’s not supposed to be about us or a debate at all – it’s supposed to be about the glory of God.  When we’re sharing the truth of Scripture with someone, we need to keep in mind that we are to share truth in love, with a focus upon Jesus Christ.  It’s when Jesus is lifted up that He’s going to draw all men to Himself; we need to do the same in our conversations.

5 “Behold, God is mighty, but despises no one; He is mighty in strength of understanding. 6 He does not preserve the life of the wicked, But gives justice to the oppressed.

  1. Elihu is going to talk about the justice of God.  In doing so, he’s going to seem to re-tread a lot of the ground that Eliphaz & the others did, but Elihu has his own twist to the arguments.  Obviously whenever someone in the book of Job has spoken of the absolute justice of God in eternity, we can say a big “Amen!” in agreement – the context is what we need to be careful of.  For the three friends, God showed Himself to be just in only punishing the wicked, and always punishing the wicked.  IOW, whenever suffering took place, it was a direct result of the person’s sin.  Obviously, that theology is wrong (as proven by Job & Christ Jesus).  So far, when Elihu has spoken of suffering, he’s shown it to be possible for God to allow the righteous to suffer – still as a form of discipline, but not of punishment/retribution.  God allows some people to suffer in order to keep them from sin (which is a big difference from Eliphaz).  The 2nd century Church Father Tertullian wrote, “The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church.”  Obviously God allows SOME suffering to take place in order to bring Him glory & spread the gospel around the world.  It seems to have been something similar for Job.
  2. The question is: is this what Elihu intends regarding Job at this point.  It seems that he might start off that way, but still ends up turning to the false theology of Eliphaz.

7 He does not withdraw His eyes from the righteous; But they are on the throne with kings, For He has seated them forever, And they are exalted. 8 And if they are bound in fetters, Held in the cords of affliction, 9 Then He tells them their work and their transgressions— That they have acted defiantly. 10 He also opens their ear to instruction, And commands that they turn from iniquity.

  1. God does not ignore the pleas of the righteous (as Job implied), but God blesses them.  And if it’s no longer blessing, but affliction, it does not mean that God stopped loving them; to Elihu it means that God is trying to reach them for repentance.  (Which can be the case in some instances.  God chastens those whom He loves. Heb 12:6)

11 If they obey and serve Him, They shall spend their days in prosperity, And their years in pleasures. 12 But if they do not obey, They shall perish by the sword, And they shall die without knowledge.

  1. The righteous who listen to God are restored (as Job will be at the end of the book).  The righteous who do not listen to God & repent will die as hypocrites.  See vs. 13…

13 “But the hypocrites in heart store up wrath; They do not cry for help when He binds them. 14 They die in youth, And their life ends among the perverted persons. 15 He delivers the poor in their affliction, And opens their ears in oppression.

  1. God knows the difference between the spiritual hypocrite & the truly oppressed & afflicted.  He will treat each one according to His righteous judgment.
  2. Although it’s not likely Elihu meant it this way, there’s actually some really good news for Job here: God heard his cry!  Job was a righteous man who had been brought low & afflicted, and he could be assured of God’s ultimate deliverance.  Let God be true & every man a liar; God would be faithful to sustain Job in his troubles & deliver him out of his troubles when the time was right.
    1. As a child of God, you can be assured that God hears your prayers!  We’ve been given the one mediator between God & man, the man Christ Jesus (1 Tim 2:5).  We’ve been given the Holy Spirit who intercedes for us in groanings that cannot be uttered (Rom 8:26).  We’ve been given an Advocate with God the Father through the Lord Jesus, in opposition to our accuser, the Devil (1 Jn 2:1).  We can be absolutely sure the Lord hears our cries!  We may not know how or when the Lord will answer, but we never need doubt if our Heavenly Father hears us.

16 “Indeed He would have brought you out of dire distress, Into a broad place where there is no restraint; And what is set on your table would be full of richness. 17 But you are filled with the judgment due the wicked; Judgment and justice take hold of you. 18 Because there is wrath, beware lest He take you away with one blow; For a large ransom would not help you avoid it. 19 Will your riches, Or all the mighty forces, Keep you from distress? 20 Do not desire the night, When people are cut off in their place. 21 Take heed, do not turn to iniquity, For you have chosen this rather than affliction.

  1. Elihu turns his attention directly towards Job & at this point seems to take his argument too far & echoes the earlier speeches of Eliphaz & the others.  Elihu blames Job for his continuing trials, as if it’s Job’s sins that God is punishing.  Job could not bribe his way out of his trials nor fight his way out, so he ought to simply submit himself to God & repent.  To do otherwise was to choose to remain in this state.
  2. Elihu got one thing right here: Job DID need to submit himself to God.  Yet Job had not chosen any of this for himself.  The one area in which Job ventured into sin was his attitude (self-righteousness & arrogance); but this happened AFTER Job’s trials, not before.  Even so, the proper response was the response Job originally started out with: humble submission to the Lord, trusting His goodness & grace.  Job simply needed to get back to that attitude.

22 “Behold, God is exalted by His power; Who teaches like Him? 23 Who has assigned Him His way, Or who has said, ‘You have done wrong’?

  1. Here’s the summary of Elihu’s argument: God is God & cannot be accused of evil.  God is good, God is just, God is eternally righteous & will always do what is right.  Even if we cannot see the end result of what God is doing, He must be trusted to always do the right thing & act in the right way.  Our responsibility is simply to submit ourselves to Him in humility & reverent fear.
  2. Amen & amen!  Elihu was himself a bit arrogant in making this point & he gets into some error along the way, but this is absolutely correct.  God is indeed exalted, and who among men & women could presume to teach God anything?  If we don’t understand what God is doing, the lack is in our own understanding; it’s not a lack in God’s character.
    1. Question: are we willing to believe the best about God in all circumstances?  Francis Chan makes the point (in “Erasing Hell”) that the reason many people don’t believe in eternal hell is simply because they don’t want to.  They say they can’t believe in a God who would allow Hell to exist, but in reality they are unwilling to believe what the Bible says about it.  The same idea could be applied here with Job & suffering.  Eliphaz & the others basically said “I can’t believe in a God who would allow a righteous man to suffer.”  Job basically said, “I can’t believe that God can still be righteous & allow me to suffer.”  At the heart, both groups were unwilling to believe that God could be righteous & still allow righteous people to suffer.  They were unwilling to believe the best about God.
    2. When we talk about loving one another, we often turn to 1 Cor 13, which exhorts us to believe the best about one another. 1 Corinthians 13:4–7, "(4) Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; (5) does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; (6) does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; (7) bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things." [] If that accurately describes what Christian love ought to be between men & women on earth, how much more ought it describe our love for God?  We believe the best about one another, but are we willing to believe the best about God – even when we don’t understand our circumstances?

24 “Remember to magnify His work, Of which men have sung. 25 Everyone has seen it; Man looks on it from afar. 26 “Behold, God is great, and we do not know Him; Nor can the number of His years be discovered.

  1. If Elihu got the accusation against Job wrong, he gets the rest of what he’s about to say absolutely right!  Elihu seems to see the weather changing, with God getting ready to speak to Job through a whirlwind, and Elihu turns his attention to the majesty & wonder of God.
  2. We can never go wrong when we remember to magnify the work of God.  When we turn our attention from our complaints to His praises, our attitudes will be right & we’ll experience the grace of God in whatever circumstance we face!  God is truly great – He is infinitely eternal – He is most worthy of praise in all of His ways.

27 For He draws up drops of water, Which distill as rain from the mist, 28 Which the clouds drop down And pour abundantly on man. 29 Indeed, can anyone understand the spreading of clouds, The thunder from His canopy? 30 Look, He scatters His light upon it, And covers the depths of the sea. 31 For by these He judges the peoples; He gives food in abundance. 32 He covers His hands with lightning, And commands it to strike. 33 His thunder declares it, The cattle also, concerning the rising storm.

  1. Elihu describes the water cycle & thunderstorm.  As the storm gathers on the horizon, Elihu sees the power & wonder of God at work.  It’s easy for us to turn our attention to God when we look at the wonders of creation – specifically the weather.  When we consider the sheer power of a thunderstorm or even a hurricane & then take a moment to consider that our God is infinitely more powerful than even THAT, it’s truly humbling & leaves us awestruck.
  2. BTW – note the accuracy by which Elihu speaks about the water cycle.  Evaporation (“draws up drops of water”), condensation (“distill as rain from the mist”), precipitation (“clouds drop down & pour abundantly”).  This was written hundreds of years prior to the earliest possible discoveries by the Chinese (and over 2000 years prior to Copernicus!).  The Bible may not be a science textbook, but we can trust it’s accuracy in regards to science.

Job 37 (NKJV)
1 “At this also my heart trembles, And leaps from its place. 2 Hear attentively the thunder of His voice, And the rumbling that comes from His mouth. 3 He sends it forth under the whole heaven, His lightning to the ends of the earth. 4 After it a voice roars; He thunders with His majestic voice, And He does not restrain them when His voice is heard. 5 God thunders marvelously with His voice; He does great things which we cannot comprehend.

  1. At this point, likely the thunderstorm is rapidly approaching the group of friends, providing a grand entrance for God Almighty to speak to Job.  Elihu is in awe of God’s power, demonstrated through the roar of the thunder.
  2. Again, with a God like this, it’s virtually impossible for us to conceive putting ourselves in judgment over Him!  If God can superintend the weather patterns, who are we to think we can possibly comprehend God in all of His fullness?
    1. Yet, that virtually what God offers to us in His grace through Jesus Christ!  Jesus is the image of the invisible God (Col 1:15) – if we have seen Him, we have seen the Father.  Granted, we’ll never truly fully understand the infinite majesty of God until we see Him in eternity – but at the same time, we’ve been given a marvelous preview of this in our Lord Jesus!

6 For He says to the snow, ‘Fall on the earth’; Likewise to the gentle rain and the heavy rain of His strength. 7 He seals the hand of every man, That all men may know His work. 8 The beasts go into dens, And remain in their lairs. 9 From the chamber of the south comes the whirlwind, And cold from the scattering winds of the north. 10 By the breath of God ice is given, And the broad waters are frozen. 11 Also with moisture He saturates the thick clouds; He scatters His bright clouds. 12 And they swirl about, being turned by His guidance, That they may do whatever He commands them On the face of the whole earth. 13 He causes it to come, Whether for correction, Or for His land, Or for mercy.

  1. God reigns over the seasons and weather patterns.  There is no aspect of creation over which He is not sovereign.

14 “Listen to this, O Job; Stand still and consider the wondrous works of God. 15 Do you know when God dispatches them, And causes the light of His cloud to shine? 16 Do you know how the clouds are balanced, Those wondrous works of Him who is perfect in knowledge? 17 Why are your garments hot, When He quiets the earth by the south wind? 18 With Him, have you spread out the skies, Strong as a cast metal mirror?

  1. Elihu gives Job a little preview of questions to come.  Job cannot do any of these things, nor can he compare himself to the God who can.  Knowing that God reigns over the universe ought to silence any thought of judgmentalism we might have over God.
  2. For clarity, we cannot judge God, but we CAN bring questions to Him.  Having questions for God is not the same thing as judging Him.  Questions can be addressed; superiority over God is sin & rebellion.

19 “Teach us what we should say to Him, For we can prepare nothing because of the darkness. 20 Should He be told that I wish to speak? If a man were to speak, surely he would be swallowed up. 21 Even now men cannot look at the light when it is bright in the skies, When the wind has passed and cleared them. 22 He comes from the north as golden splendor;

  1. How can we possibly instruct God?  What is it any of us could teach the Almighty Infinite Omniscient God?  We cannot bear to look at the sun in its brightness without burning our eyes – how much less can we gaze upon the glorious God in judgment?

With God is awesome majesty. 23 As for the Almighty, we cannot find Him; He is excellent in power, In judgment and abundant justice; He does not oppress. 24 Therefore men fear Him; He shows no partiality to any who are wise of heart.”

  1. Elihu basically gets cut off at this point as the storm around them has come to a head & God is ready to speak.  But Elihu leaves off with three basic points:
    1. God is glorious
    2. God is powerful
    3. God is just
    4. The conclusion?  Trust God!

Conclusion:
Job has been rebuked by Elihu, but that’s just the beginning of it.  He’s going to experience much rebuke from God, as God lovingly takes the time to help Job understand how much he does not truly understand.  Yet for Elihu, though he got off-track a few times in imputing too much sin & motives to Job, Elihu still gets a few things right:

  1. There’s no way man can judge God.  We can never consider ourselves more righteous than Him; He is righteous in His very being.
  2. God is absolutely good & absolutely just.  God’s discipline is not always punishment; sometimes it’s His loving guidance to keep us from sin.
  3. God is awesome in His majesty.  We can barely comprehend the wonder of God – how much less we can pass judgment over His ways.

 

The question for Job (as it is for us) is: do you believe it?  Are you willing to believe it?  There are times of suffering that we will endure – things that no one would want to wish upon his/her worst enemy.  Yet will we blame God for these things, or will we believe the best about the One we claim to love with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength?  Will we choose to trust God because He’s worthy of our trust?

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