Satan is a Loser

Posted: February 13, 2011 in Revelation

Revelation 12:1-17, “Satan is a Loser”

There are many true things that could be said about the Devil…here are two: (1) In the end, he loses.  (2) He’s pretty ticked off about it.  The Bible makes it absolutely clear that the Devil knows his fate, and it seems to be one of the reasons he’s so bent on rage & destruction of the people of God.  Satan knows that he cannot win against the Lord Jesus (although he tries his hardest), and as a result he tries to take out as many of the people of God as possible.  As Jesus told us, the Devil does not come except to steal, kill, and destroy (Jn 10:10) – and he takes out his rage upon the children of God.  Yet even in all of his unbridled wrath, Satan still loses…every time.

As Rev 11 ended, this fact was actually part of the theme.  The kingdoms of the world had become the kingdom of God as Jesus Christ took back what was rightfully His from the hand of the usurper Satan.  Jesus is rightfully the King over all the Universe, and all of heaven could rejoice of this fact – even before Jesus ever set foot on the earth at the 2nd Coming.  This scene ended with the preparations of the 7 bowl judgments (the final wrath of God) about to be poured out.

But before we get there, John stops the normal flow of events to take a look at some of the backstory that brought us to this place.  So far, we’ve seen the events of the tribulation from the vantage point of heaven; now we’re going to see some of the same things from the va+ntage point of the earth, as Satan, Antichrist, and the False Prophet run rampant.  The regular narrative will pick up again in Ch 15, but for the next several chapters the apostle John is going to describe a series of visions that he was given that range from the 1st coming of Christ through the Great Tribulation, all the way to the 2nd Coming & final battle.

It needs to be said from the start, that because the next several chapters deal with so much symbolism, there’s quite a bit of disagreement from scholars regarding interpretation.  Much of the major themes are agreed upon (by scholars of the same “stripe” – such as pretrib/premill, historical, amill, etc.), but many of the more minor details (such as chronology of the events) are debated quite a bit.  What we want to be careful of is to not miss the forest for the trees.  We’ll stick to some of the “bigger picture” ideas, and we’ll hold some of our more minor details loosely.  Godly people can disagree, but obviously it’s best when Godly people disagree agreeably. J

With all that said, what’s the big picture here?  Easy: Satan & his failures.  Satan tried to stop Christ from coming, but he couldn’t.  Satan tried to overthrow God, but he couldn’t.  Satan has tried (and will continue to try) to destroy God’s people, but he can’t.  In every way, Satan loses.

Revelation 12 (NKJV)
1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.

  1. A great sign.”  From the outset, this tells us we’re going to be seeing much symbolism in the next several chapters.  True, we look at the Scriptures from a grammatical-literal-historical point of view…but that does not exclude the use of symbolism.  To take the Bible literally is to also take obvious symbols for what they literally are: symbolic – something that is intended by the author to literally point to something else.  For example, when Jesus says “I am the door,” (John 10:7,9) He is not claiming to be a literal piece of wood hanging on a set of hinges.  Instead, Jesus is using the metaphor of a door to show that we only enter into eternal life by going through Christ…  Likewise, John is plainly using symbolic language here – and he goes so far to take away any question about it by telling us that he witnessed a “great sign.
  2. So what was the sign? A woman, clothed with the sun & moon & crowned with 12 stars.  There will be another symbolic woman mentioned later in Rev 17, but the description makes it plain that these are two different representations.  The 2nd woman is known for her fornications & harlotry; the 1st woman is clothed in glory.  Everything about her is bathed in light (the sun, moon, and stars) – obviously she is chosen by God to be a reflection of His own glory (which is far greater than the sun & stars).  The 2nd woman is corrupted by the filth of sin; the 1st woman is clothed in righteousness.
  3. So who is she?  Although there’s a bit of debate, the simplest, plainest explanation is that the woman is representative of the nation of believing Israel.  She couldn’t be the Church (as the woman obviously gives birth to Christ – vs 5, which would be backward).  She’s not likely a picture of Mary, though Mary has obvious involvement here (the symbolism is far bigger than Mary’s pregnancy).  It’s not likely a picture of Eve, because again the symbolism is bigger than Eve’s life.  Instead, it’s a picture of the people that range from Eve to Mary – the nation of Israel that looked forward in faith to the promised Messiah of God.  We actually get a foretaste of this vision from the dreams of Joseph: Genesis 37:9-10 (9) Then he dreamed still another dream and told it to his brothers, and said, “Look, I have dreamed another dream. And this time, the sun, the moon, and the eleven stars bowed down to me.” (10) So he told it to his father and his brothers; and his father rebuked him and said to him, “What is this dream that you have dreamed? Shall your mother and I and your brothers indeed come to bow down to the earth before you?” [] Taken as a whole, the picture was of the nation of Israel…just like what John saw in the 1st sign.

2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.

  1. Because the woman is pregnant, she plainly cannot be the Church.  The Church has been borne out of the work of Christ; it does not give birth TO Christ.  The Church is the Bride of Christ; we cannot give birth to our Groom.
  2. Some have supposed that the woman’s cry is symbolic of persecution through history until the 1st coming of Christ.  Israel had been ruled by the Assyrians & Babylonians & Persians & Romans prior to Jesus’ birth – and they had suffered greatly during much of that time.  That said, it’s tough to assign the woman’s labor pains to persecution.  Labor pains are simply what precede birth.  In the vision, it’s likely simply showing that the birth of the woman’s child is at hand when something else happens.  What is it?  A 2nd sign/symbolic vision.  See vs. 3…

3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.

  1. As with the identity of the woman, this sign is also debated somewhat to various shades of meaning.  But the overall identity of this dragon is absolutely clear – John definitively states that the dragon is Satan (vs. 9).  This is not the cartoonish image of a bearded guy in red pajamas & a pitchfork; nor is this the deceptive (though real) disguise of the Devil as an angel of light (2 Cor 11:14).  This is a vision of the Devil as his character truly shows him to be: a monstrous dragon.
  2. The dragon shows himself to be powerful.  7 heads – 10 horns – 7 crowns (diadems).  Horn = a symbol of power throughout the Scripture…  Satan is showing himself to have power over all the earth.  This is the Devil at the height of his usurped power.  Jesus called him the “ruler of this world” (Jn 12:31) & Paul called him “the prince of the power of the air” (Eph 2:2).  Satan is not ALL-powerful, but he does have SOME power over this world…but even that power is temporary.  Satan has already been judged at the cross (Jn 16:11) & Jesus has already won the ultimate victory!

4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born.

  1. Seems to be a reference to the 1st demonic rebellion.  Although the Bible doesn’t tell us too much about the actual event, at some point in the past (at least prior to the Fall of Adam), Satan rebelled against God.  Scripture implies that the Devil used to be a glorious angel, designed specifically to reflect the glory of God – but Satan desired to keep the glory for himself & rebel.  In his rebellion, he led a third of the angels with him & they became the demonic armies under his command.
  2. From the time that Satan rebelled against God, what was his goal?  To stop the incarnation, crucifixion, and resurrection of Christ.  1st he tried to have Adam & Eve killed outright…  He tried multiple times to stop the bloodline of Christ…  He was the demonic inspiration behind the murderous rage of King Herod… He’s always been ready to devour Christ, but he’s always failed!

5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne.

  1. Who’s the Child?  The Lord Jesus Christ, without question.  To describe this Child as the one to “rule all nations with a rod of iron” is to undoubtedly describe the Messiah (Ps 2:9).  Some have attempted to identify the Child with the Church, but it’s simply not possible from the text.  We are co-heirs WITH Christ, but HE is the ruler; He is the Good Shepherd.
    1. Thus the imagery with Israel fits perfectly, going all the way back to Genesis at the Garden of Eden.  Genesis 3:15  And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.” []  The woman in Israel is the one that brings forth the Child that is to crush the head of the serpent (Satan).  The Devil was the one with the crowns & horns of power, but all of his power ultimately belonged to Christ who would take them by force – 1st through the cross & resurrection, 2nd through the glorious 2nd Coming.
  2. Interestingly enough, Jesus’ earthly ministry is not described at all here.  It goes straight from His incarnation (His birth) to His ascension.  The cross & resurrection are completely skipped over in the passage.  WHY?
    1. It’s possible that it’s assumed by John.  After all, the book of Revelation has not been hesitant to refer to the sacrifice of Christ at the cross (and will do so later in Ch 12).  At this point, there may not be a need to mention it, but rather to continue with the story of how Satan continually tried to destroy the things of God & the people of God.
    2. It’s also possible that John (through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit) is following a generic outline of a popular myth in other cultures.  Many cultures around the world ranging from the Egyptians to the Greeks had a myth that dealt with a usurper king who attempted to destroy the child who was the rightful ruler, only to fail with the child gaining the victory.  The Greek version even had the usurper in the form of a giant serpent (named “Python”).  Of course, none of the pagan varieties undermine the vision in Revelation 12 at all.  There are pagan myths in cultures around the world that support the global flood of Noah as well – but there’s only one true version of what really happened.  It’s no different here.  Satan is an imposter on many levels (he’s the father of lies – Jn 8:44); God is the one that tells & reveals the truth (proven through the Resurrection!).  John may be simply following a format that his original readers would readily understand, but giving them the actual truth behind the events.

6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

  1. If the 1,260 days sounds familiar, it’s because that’s the exact length of time described for the 2 witnesses of Ch 11.  God allowed them to witness for 3.5 years without anyone able to harm them, then allowed them to be killed by Antichrist with the world rejoicing, only to see them rise again from the dead 3.5 days later & immediately ascend to heaven in a personal slow-motion rapture.
  2. It seems that the chronology in John’s vision jumps ahead from the moment of Jesus’ ascension into heaven to the time of the Great Tribulation, as God protects the nation of Israel (those who have at this point professed faith in Christ) for the 3.5 year timeframe of the witnesses’ ministry.
  3. Notice that whatever this hiding place is in the wilderness (theories & speculation abound!), that it’s been “prepared by God.”  This was a place prepared exactly for this time, exactly for this people. At this place, God had prepared to protect & provide for His people, by feeding them & hiding them from the work of the enemy. (Likewise, we have a place prepared for us: the house of God in heaven!  Jesus has gone there to prepare a place for us, and He will receive us to Himself.)

7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

  1. The scene changes a bit – the woman Israel has been secured on earth, but war breaks out in heaven.  Satan attempts to overthrow the heavenly forces of God & fails as Michael leads the angelic armies against the demons.  Satan is cast to the earth, along with his army.
  2. The question here is: when did the war take place?  Is this the original rebellion against God (as in vs. 4) – or is this somehow a different battle?  We know that Jesus saw Satan fall to the earth like lightning (Lk 10:18), but He could have either been referring to an earlier casting out, or speaking of a prophetic vision.  When was this?  We get a bit of a clue in vs. 7 – there was not a place for Satan & the demons “in heaven any longer.”  Question: could Satan actually be IN heaven after his initial rebellion?  Yes.  That’s exactly what we learn in the opening chapter of the book of Job.  Apparently, the Devil had a regular practice of going before God (and accusing God’s people along the way).  At one point, Satan did have at least some access to heaven; after the war with Michael, that access is completely removed & there is no longer “any” access.
    1. If there are other doubts about this being a later battle, note the context.  The Christ Child has already been born, grown, died, resurrected, and ascended to the right hand of God.  It’s after the ascension in the same vision that John sees the heavenly war.  Actually, it’s after the 3.5 years of God’s provision for Israel have already been mentioned. Because of this, some scholars believe that this is another perspective of some of the events that actually kick off the Great Tribulation.  Forever banished from heaven, Satan’s only realm is on the earth – and he continues his war there (as seen through the work of the Antichrist, the demonic locusts, & demonic armies).  Even then, Satan is still subject to the will & sovereignty of God – but Satan’s rage is still unbounded.
    2. BTW – note how the Devil is described here: as a deceiver.  He is the one “who deceives the whole world.”  The Devil is a liar; that’s been his M.O. from the very beginning.  He lied to Eve in the Garden of Eden & he still lies today in the ears of anyone who will listen to his poisonous words.  Paul noted that the Devil can disguise himself as an angel of light (2 Cor 11:14) & that’s likely exactly what happened in the case of at least two false religions as the Devil (or his minions) disguised themselves to preach a false gospel to those willing to believe it (Mormonism & Islam). … The question for us is: if we know that the Devil is a liar, why do we so often listen to him?  How many times have we dwelt upon thoughts or ideas that take us away from the heart of God or the Scriptures – and we simply go along with it?  The Devil is a liar.  He always has been; he always will be.  Whatever he says is either an outright lie or a subtle perversion of the truth…  The sooner we realize that fact, the better.
  3. Why is the archangel Michael mentioned instead of Christ?  Obviously any power Michael has to fight the Devil comes from Christ Jesus & it is ultimately in Jesus’ crucifixion & resurrection that the Devil could be cast out in the 1st place (Jn 12:31).  But Michael apparently has always had a role in God’s protection of Israel, as was made clear to Daniel, and perhaps this very event was prophesied: Daniel 12:1  “At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book. []  Michael stands up, leads an angelic army against the forces of Satan & wins, all in the context of the “time of trouble” – the Great Tribulation. …
    1. Beyond Satan’s defeat here, there’s another reason to rejoice: our God is sovereign over every single aspect of this!  Thousands of years before the events of the Tribulation, God lays out to the letter what will happen – and as John sees it take place before his eyes, God shows the fulfilling of the prophecy.  God always wins; Satan always loses.
    2. We need to be willing to see things through to the end!  When we go through trials & personal tribulations of our own (as Jesus promised would happen), sometimes we give up hope.  When we go through times of intense spiritual warfare, sometimes we simply feel overwhelmed & we don’t see any way out.  Don’t give up!  As Paul writes to the Ephesians, we need to stand in the midst of our spiritual battles by putting on the armor of God, and when we’ve done everything we can do, we stand some more. (Eph 6:13)  Persevere – carry on!  Otherwise we give up too soon.  God always wins; the Devil always loses.  We may not see it this side of Heaven, but there’s no doubt that we WILL see it.  All the proof we need is at Mt. Calvary in the cross.  The Devil probably thought he had won that battle – but although Jesus died on the cross, His grave is empty.  Jesus always wins the battle, and His victories are decisive!

10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.

  1. Whoever the loud voice originates with, the rejoicing in heaven begins with the casting out of Satan.  Anytime the defeat of the Devil is apparent, it’s a reason for rejoicing, and it’s no different in the heavenly realms.  Note the two contrasts with Christ:
  2. Contrast #1: the Devil is the usurper; Jesus is the victor.  Satan WAS shown with the crowns & horns, but now the power of Christ is made known (demonstrated here by the war of Michael & the angels) & the kingdom of God had come.  Again, this echoes the song in Ch 11.  God is the One who has taken His great power to reign.  Satan may at one point have had power in the world, but that power is being stripped from him.  Jesus is the victor & Jesus will forever be the King of every corner of the Universe.
  3. Contrast #2: the Devil is the accuser; Jesus is our advocate.  To our ears, Satan lies & deceives.  But God cannot be deceived, so what does Satan do?  He speaks the truth in the harshest of terms: he accuses the saints of God.  The very names of “Satan” & “Devil” actually mean “accuser/slanderer” – and apparently that’s what Satan did in the presence of God day & night (again, showing he had access to heaven after his initial rebellion against God).  Likely he brings out our sins & lays them before God the Father, proclaiming, “See?  This one is deserving of Hell – look at all of his sin!”  How does the Lord respond?  Through the attorney He Himself provided for us: Jesus Christ.  1 John 2:1-2 (1) My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. (2) And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. []  The Devil can accuse the saint of God all day long – but when we are born of the Holy Spirit & our sin has been covered by the blood of Jesus Christ, God can rightfully respond: it is finished; the debt has been paid in full!

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.

  1. Who are the “they”?  Obviously this is not a reference to God the Father & the Lord Jesus.  They certainly overcame the Devil, but although God the Son died at the cross (and rose again), God the Father never died.  “They” = a reference to “the brethren” (vs. 10).  Just as the angel Michael overcame the Devil by the power of Christ, so do we overcome the Devil by the power of Christ.  Recall that Revelation began Jesus giving 7 letters to the 7 churches of Asia, but with the message being given to all the Church throughout history (“he who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches”).  One of the themes that was common in each letter were certain promises to the overcomers/conquerors.  HOW the people conquer is made plain here.  When the Devil makes spiritual war against us, we overcome in three ways:
    1. Through “the blood of the Lamb”:  This aspect is foundational to the rest.  We will NEVER be able to stand against the Devil in spiritual warfare in our own power.  Not once can an unregenerate person stand up against the Devil & succeed; the Accuser has far too much power with which to knock them down.  [Sons of Sceva – Acts 19:13-16]  The only power we have against the enemy is through the shed blood of Jesus Christ.  We have been bought with a price – we belong to God the Father because of the blood of God the Son.
    2. Though faith – “the word of their testimony”: Because the saints held firm to the gospel of Christ Jesus, they were able to overcome.  Never neglect the importance of the gospel in the life of a believer!  When the Devil comes against you in accusation & lies, you can look to the cross & know that you know that your sins have been paid for.  When all other doubts come into your mind, have faith in the gospel that you received & in which you stand.  Take up the shield of faith & the helmet of salvation & be assured in what Christ has done for you!
    3. Through perseverance – by not loving our “lives to the death”: There’s a bit of irony here.  We don’t often think of overcomers/conquerors actually dying in battle – yet that’s exactly what’s implied here.  We tend to get an Americanized version of Christianity in our heads when we believe that once we put our faith in Christ, we will see physical prosperity in every area of our lives & that the tragedies of life will never touch us & that we’ll never experience suffering.  That’s NOT what the Bible says, and it’s certainly not what history has proven.  The vast majority of Christians around the world suffer deeply for their faith & multitudes have been (and still will be) put to death simply for claiming Christ as Lord.  Yet in their faithful perseverance, they are still victorious over the Devil.  How so?  The saint will forever be in Heaven; Satan will forever be in Hell.

12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

  1. The reason to rejoice?  The Devil is defeated!  He has been kicked out of heaven, and the saints are forever victorious in the presence of our Lord Jesus!
  2. The reason for woe?  Because the Devil is defeated, he’s pretty ticked off.  He’s been cast to the earth, and all the inhabitants of the earth will endure his rage.
  3. Note that Satan understands exactly what’s going on in all of this.  By this point “he knows that he has a short time.”  Keep in mind that the Devil likely knows the Bible better than we do.  The end of Revelation isn’t exactly a closely guarded secret.  Anyone who reads it can see that God wins & the Devil loses.  This knowledge doesn’t cause the Devil to repent & surrender; it causes him to get angry & dig in his heels.  The Devil knows he’s going to Hell…and he wants to take as many people as possible with him there.

13 Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. 14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.

  1. The vision continues with Satan persecuting the nation of Israel, but by God protecting Israel by taking her to the place that He had prepared for her (vs. 6).  Note the timeframe is identical: “a time and times and half a time” = 3.5 years.  Just like God carried Israel out of the slavery of Egypt into the wilderness on the wings of eagles (Exo 19:4), so does God do with those of Israel who have come to faith in Christ during the days of the Great Tribulation.  Jesus had warned the Jews that there would be a day in the Tribulation when they would need to flee to the mountains (Mt 24:16) – this seems to be a reference to the same day.

15 So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. 16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.

  1. We don’t know exactly what this “flood” is – whether it is a literal flood of water or symbolic of the serpent’s persecution.  Whatever it is, it is evident that the Devil will do everything in his power to destroy the remnant of believing Israel during this time…but as with everything else, he will fail.  God will protect His people through supernatural means.  He had sealed 144K from the tribes of Israel for protection during the Great Tribulation (Rev 7) – at the very least, these same 144K are saved at this time…possibly many more who had also come to faith in Christ Jesus.

17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

  1. Not only did the Devil attempt to destroy the remnant of Israel, he makes war with everyone on earth who at this point in the Tribulation has faith in Jesus Christ.  This seems to be a reference to the great multitude of people who become martyrs during the days of the Tribulation (Rev 7:14).  They would be the “offspring” of the nation of Israel in that they come to faith through Israel’s witness.
  2. The supernatural protection mentioned with Israel is not mentioned here.  Many will die.  Does that mean God loves them any less?  Certainly not!  God simply has a different plan for them.  They are still saved by the blood of Jesus Christ – they are still within the will of God.  Like the saints that came before them, they overcome the Devil through the blood of Christ, faith in the gospel, and by persevering unto the death.

Conclusion:

The Devil is a loser!  (With a capital “L”!)  The Devil attempted to wipe out Jesus before Christ was born, but failed.  The Devil attempted to overthrow the forces of God (multiple times!), but failed.  The Devil will attempt to destroy the people of God, and at the very least destroy their faith – but he will fail.  The Devil will fail every time because God is infinitely stronger than the Devil.

The best part?  Not only is the Devil the loser, but Jesus is the victor.  It’s not as if Satan loses, but the world is still turned over to anarchy & chaos; the Lord Jesus wins.  Jesus’ victory is decisive – Jesus’ victory is certain – Jesus’ victory is eternal.  There is no work of the Devil that Jesus does not infinitely overpower.  In the end, the Creator shows His great power over His creation, and His sovereign will is completed.

Christian, do you trust in Christ in the middle of your spiritual battles?  Or do you spend too much time giving too much credit to the enemy?  We certainly face a powerful enemy that we could not even think of facing in our own strength…but as a believer in Jesus Christ, you NEVER face the Devil alone.  The Lord Jesus is always with you & will never forsake you.  The Devil may roam about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, but our Lord is the true Lion of the Tribe of Judah.  There is no one & nothing more powerful than Him!  Trust your Savior – stay rooted in the gospel – keep your eyes focused upon Christ, and stand in HIS victory & work at the cross.

If you haven’t yet put your faith in Christ as Savior & Lord – if you haven’t humbled yourself before God & surrendered your life to Christ Jesus, then you need to know that right now, you don’t have any power over the Devil.  In fact, you belong to him.  That can change today!  God loves you & does not want to see anyone to perish by going to Hell with the Devil…that’s the reason He sent Jesus Christ to die on the cross for sin. 

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Comments
  1. Satan says:

    Stop calling me a loser, and you Christians need to stop trampling me under your feet too!!!

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  3. someone says:

    Can you remove the Satan impostor for me? He doesn’t belong here.

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